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		<title>Change of Address Stops Most Spam &#8211; GMail Stops the Rest</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 22:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[March 17th was a big day for me. It was the day I deleted my older e-mail accounts that were by spam collectors (well, I kept one but more on that later). While it&#8217;s a huge pain I&#8217;d been changing e-mail addresses since the beginning of the year. And the 17th was the day I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>March 17th was a big day for me. It was the day I deleted my older e-mail accounts that were by spam collectors (well, I kept one but more on that later). While it&#8217;s a huge pain I&#8217;d been changing e-mail addresses since the beginning of the year. And the 17th was the day I cut the cord and deleted the old addresses. At the time I deleted the mailboxes I was getting at least 50 spam messages a day and frequently over 70. These were the pobox.com addresses and pobox was stopping most of it but it still felt good to delete them.</p>
<p>The one mailbox I have left that gets spam is my GMail account. I&#8217;ve been impressed by how well it&#8217;s identified the spam e-mails I get. As I&#8217;ve mentioned before, I use this address when I suspect the the place I&#8217;m using it either won&#8217;t be careful with it, or will outright start using it for spam. Gmail has stopped 207 spam emails since the 18th and let one through to my inbox. There haven&#8217;t been any false positives but I have very little real e-mail sent to it. The one spam message it let through was seen as spam by Apple&#8217;s Mail.app.</p>
<p>Now, it remains to be seen how long it will be before my new e-mail addresses start collecting spam.</p>
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<div id="crp_related"><h3>Related Posts:</h3><ul><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/12/23/aolyahoogmail-spam-filters/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">AOL/Yahoo/GMail Spam Filters</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/11/27/spam-project-launched/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Spam Project Launched</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2007/01/21/recap/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Recap</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/12/04/theres-theory-then-theres-reality/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">There&#8217;s Theory &#8211; Then There&#8217;s Reality</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/11/27/spam-already-waiting-the-numbers/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Spam Already Waiting &#8211; The Numbers</a></li></ul></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Recap</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#8217;t done much (OK, I haven&#8217;t done anything) for almost a month. Some of this is because Spam has been out of my mind. I&#8217;ve migrated off of my e-mail addresses that get all my spam and run those e-mails through both the Pobox.com and GMail filters before they hit my inbox. The bottom [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t done much (OK, I haven&#8217;t done anything) for almost a month. Some of this is because Spam has been out of my mind. I&#8217;ve migrated off of my e-mail addresses that get all my spam and run those e-mails through both the <span class="blsp-spelling-error">Pobox</span>.com and <span class="blsp-spelling-error">GMail</span> filters before they hit my inbox. The bottom line was no spam hit my desktop.</p>
<p>The numbers:</p>
<ul>
<li>Since December 23rd I&#8217;ve received 1,740 Spam e-mails that were stopped by the <span class="blsp-spelling-error">Pobox</span>.com spam filters.</li>
<li><span class="blsp-spelling-error">Pobox</span>.com stopped three e-mails that I released. These released e-mails were all bulk e-mails and I released them si I could <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected">unsubscribe</span>, technically they weren&#8217;t spam. <span class="blsp-spelling-error">Pobox</span>.com no longer receives &#8220;real&#8221; e-mails for me other than long forgotten mailing lists, so this isn&#8217;t an accurate measurement of how well it avoids false positives. I have <span class="blsp-spelling-error">Pobox</span>.com set to use &#8220;Standard Settings&#8221; for the spam filter and I allow it to automatically update my <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected">anti spam</span> actions which are the defaults.</li>
<li><span class="blsp-spelling-error">GMail</span> stopped an additional 4 spam e-mails that <span class="blsp-spelling-error">Pobox</span>.com let through.</li>
<li><span class="blsp-spelling-error">GMail</span> stopped 100 spam e-mails that were sent directly to it (not the <span class="blsp-spelling-error">Pobox</span> forwarded e-mails).</li>
<li><span class="blsp-spelling-error">GMail</span> didn&#8217;t have many opportunities for false positives when identifying Spam. It only had problems when dealing with my <span class="blsp-spelling-error">Pobox</span>.com discard reports. It let about 1/2 of the discard reports through while identifying the others as spam. The inconsistency seems to be due to the specific server that <span class="blsp-spelling-error">GMail</span> got the message from as the sending server for the ones flagged as spam was different than the ones for messages that got through. (The sending address is not in my contact list which would probably avoid the whole issue.)</li>
<li>On the Apple Mail Client side 5 e-mails that got through were incorrectly flagged as junk (spam). All were from bulk e-mailers and none were in my address book or previous recipients list.</li>
<li>My daily count hit a low of 36 on Jan 2<span class="blsp-spelling-error">nd</span>, but it picked right up and my daily high was 92 on Jan 9<span class="blsp-spelling-error">th</span>. (Those highs/lows are since Dec 23rd.</li>
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<p>That&#8217;s all for now, just a quick update to the numbers.</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>Related Posts:</h3><ul><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/12/10/this-week-in-spam-2/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">This Week in Spam</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/12/03/this-week-in-spam/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">This Week In Spam</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/11/27/spam-already-waiting-the-numbers/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Spam Already Waiting &#8211; The Numbers</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2007/04/02/change-of-address-stops-most-spam-gmail-stops-the-rest/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Change of Address Stops Most Spam &#8211; GMail Stops the Rest</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/11/27/spam-project-launched/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Spam Project Launched</a></li></ul></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>AOL/Yahoo/GMail Spam Filters</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There wasn&#8217;t much time for counting spam this week so I needed to do something simple. I forwarded my Pobox email email to 5 different addresses to compare the ISP spam filters. All these numbers are for the default filter settings without any additional training (if they support training) and received spam for 5 days. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There wasn&#8217;t much time for counting spam this week so I needed to do something simple. I forwarded my Pobox email email to 5 different addresses to compare the ISP spam filters. All these numbers are for the default filter settings without any additional training (if they support training) and received spam for 5 days.</p>
<p>Yahoo caught 119 spam messages and let 78 into my inbox for a 60% success rate.</p>
<p>GMail caught 194 spam messages and let 3 through for a 98% success rate.</p>
<p>Both Yahoo and Gmail received 197 spam messages over the 5 days. None of my AOL (&#8220;My eAddress&#8221;) accounts received anywhere near that number, even when spam filtering was turned off. This would indicate that AOL is doing their own filtering and stopping some email before it ever gets to the inbox. (Unless there were some delivery problems.)</p>
<p>The AOL mailbox with the spam filter set to low received 146 spam emails and let them all through to the inbox. Fifty one messages never made it to the mailbox.</p>
<p>The AOL mailbox with the spam filter set to medium stopped 36 and let 101 through to my inbox while 60 never made it to mailbox.</p>
<p>The AOL mailbox with the spam filter set to high stopped 47 while letting 88 through to the inbox. Sixty-two never made it to the mailbox.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been moving legitimate email off of the addresses that get my spam. So while there weren&#8217;t any false positives (or would that be false negatives?) the fact is I don&#8217;t get any legit email at those addresses anymore.</p>
<p>GMail is clearly better than the others at stopping spam. But the question that remains for me is whether it&#8217;s so aggressive it will stop legitimate email. Even with the AOL filter set to high it let through more spam than the Yahoo filter did. But but Yahoo and AOL let through so much spam I&#8217;d need a good email client to filter out what gets through. So, why have the email provider filter anything? If everything gets to the email client, and it has a good filter, there&#8217;s only one place to check for false positives.</p>
<p>I turned the Pobox spam filter back on and I&#8217;ll see how it does for the rest of the year.</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>Related Posts:</h3><ul><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/12/03/this-week-in-spam/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">This Week In Spam</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/12/10/this-week-in-spam-2/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">This Week in Spam</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/11/27/spam-project-launched/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Spam Project Launched</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/11/27/spam-already-waiting-the-numbers/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Spam Already Waiting &#8211; The Numbers</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2007/04/02/change-of-address-stops-most-spam-gmail-stops-the-rest/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Change of Address Stops Most Spam &#8211; GMail Stops the Rest</a></li></ul></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>This Week In Spam</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This past week was spent getting used to the software, ISP&#8217;s and Spam filters. Here&#8217;s a summary&#8230; The only two places spam arrives directly from the internet are at my email forwarder and GMail. GMail Gmail (Google Mail) received 18 Spam e-mails over 5 days. There were not any false positives and no spam got [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This past week was spent getting used to the software, ISP&#8217;s and Spam filters. Here&#8217;s a summary&#8230;</p>
<p>The only two places spam arrives directly from the internet are at my email forwarder and GMail.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:130%;">GMail</span><br />
Gmail (Google Mail) received 18 Spam e-mails over 5 days. There were not any false positives and no spam got through.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:130%;">Pobox &#8211; Mail Forwarder</span><br />
My mail forwarding service, pobox.com, flagged and held 339 emails as spam over a 5 day period. The only false positives were from one sender. It was an bulk advertising e-mail, but from a place I&#8217;d done business with. I could have added the sender to the whitelist, but I chose to unsubscribe instead.</p>
<p>As has been mentioned, ISPs handle email differently when it&#8217;s from a forwarder than they do when it&#8217;s direct. The three accounts the mail is being forwarded to only receive email from the forwarder. (The .Mac account gets a few e-mails from Apple and the Yahoo account gets a few e-mails from Yahoo.) If my email forwarder didn&#8217;t detect a message as spam it passed it along. I had the e-mails sent to my Yahoo, .Mac and AOL (&#8220;My eAddress&#8221;) accounts.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:130%;">Yahoo</span><br />
I reset the junk filter when I started. As I checked the mail each day I used Yahoo&#8217;s junk mail button to properly mark the e-mail and train the filter. Only e-mail not caught by the forwarder was sent to Yahoo.</p>
<p>The first day Yahoo missed 10 out of 11 junk e-mails. But even with just these e-mails as training it started catching more than it missed from that point on. During the 5 day period Yahoo caught 19 junk emails and let 17 through.</p>
<p>There was one false positive which was a marketing e-mail which I added to my address book for future delivery.</p>
<p>There was another marketing email where the exact same email was sent to two of my email addresses. Yahoo saw one as junk but not the other. I&#8217;m guessing it was the second one that if flagged as junk rather than an inconsistency.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:130%;">.MAC Mail</span><br />
.Mac mail does not have any web based spam filter, at least not visible to the user.Typically, only 1/2 the junk email appeared in my mailbox. One of the undelivered emails was a daily report I receive. I added the sender address to my address book on my Mac. From that point on these emails were received. I do sync my address book with .Mac.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:130%;">AOL (My eAddress)</span><br />
Over the 5 day period AOL flagged 21 emails as junk and let 31 go through. The first day is the only time it caught more than it let through. It performed worse as it was trained. There weren&#8217;t any false positives. AOL seems to be applying its own filter before delivering the mail as the number of emails received in my AOL box was less than the number delivered to Yahoo.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:130%;">Apple Mail</span><br />
I used Apple mail to read mail delivered to my .Mac account. The first day Apple Mail caught 10 and missed 10 junk mails. After that initial training it improved dramatically catching 6 and missing 1.</p>
<p>Apple mail also flagged 5 emails as junk which were not. Not all of these were bulk emails. Two were transaction receipts or info requests sent directly to me. But it&#8217;s almost a given that they were sent using an automated system that handles a large volume.</p>
<p>As a test, after delivery of the mail from .Mac mail I downloaded mail from Yahoo. This would duplicate the mail received from .Mac mail. Mail that had been marked as junk or not junk when received from .Mac mail was properly processed.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:130%;">Thunderbird</span><br />
Thunderbird had the slowest junk mail filter to train. It also requires marking both junk and non-junk mail to train it. As a small, unscientific test I tried just marking junk for the firs couple of days. The filter made no real improvement despite a large volume of junk. I reset the filter and started marking every email received as either junk or not junk. There was a noticeable improvement right away. The first two days it missed everything, the last two days it caught everything. Thunderbird had 1 false positive which was a bulk email, the same sender that I had to add to my Yahoo address book to let through. For Thunderbird I marked it not junk and added the sender to my &#8220;Collected Addresses&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thunderbird on Windows handled the junk email the same way it did on Mac. I used the same emails for training.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:130%;">Outlook Express</span><br />
I looked at Outlook Express on Windows XP SP2. The only junk mail tool is a blocked address list.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:130%;color:#3366ff;">Next Week</span><br />
Ideally what I want is for all mail to be delivered to my desktop inbox and let it filter for junk mail. This keeps me from having to go to another location to look for blocked email that I actually need.</p>
<p>I turned off the spam filters at my email forwarder and at Yahoo. This week we&#8217;ll see how well Thunderbird and Apple Mail handle the spam.</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>Related Posts:</h3><ul><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/11/27/spam-already-waiting-the-numbers/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Spam Already Waiting &#8211; The Numbers</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/12/10/this-week-in-spam-2/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">This Week in Spam</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2007/01/21/recap/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Recap</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/12/18/apple-mail-vs-thunderbird/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Apple Mail vs. Thunderbird</a></li><li><a href="http://www.spamchronicles.com/2006/11/27/spam-project-launched/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Spam Project Launched</a></li></ul></div>]]></content:encoded>
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